I've already got headache since the first day...

I really don't want to think about this, but I just can't help it...

I just checked for myself how Arashi, KAT-TUN, and News usually do....
and now I've got a headache too.......>.

they usually still sell around 20k on the 3rd day...this is pretty much depressing...

It not bad at all Arashi's last album only sold 86,692 on the first day and 220,722 in the first week, Kanjani8 can still make it!!

Arashi has a good momentum going and they don't fall as stupidly as Kanjani8 do...Arashi would have still sold over 30k on the 3rd day...

but Kanjani is not Arashi. I really think you can't compare Kanjani with the rest of Johnny's because they are not as popular as the others are. It's an awesome numer of copies for three days :)

I didn't compare them to Arashi but to their own sales...it should be pretty disappointing if they can't at least reach around the level of KJ2...if they're really getting more popular then why aren't people buying? then Eito probably didn't have to pitch the idea of including all the bonuses because it still won't work...that's where you can see where the loyal fans are, those who would still buy the album even witrhout all those stuff...

and I think they're popular in Japan considering they're always in the Top5 of Amazon daily since the release date was announced...I didn't see NEWS/KT anymore in the Top5 the last time I checked and NEWS is not even in the Top10...but the other Johnnys have more foreign fans (mostly due to dorama-power) and that makes a difference...the problem with Kanjani8 is that they're too eccentric for foreign fans...

yes arashi more faomus than k8 arashi the must popular Johnny's

but this Does not mean the rest of Johnny's more than them

they are more popular than hsj and news and they r SALES more than them

just arashi Does not mean all je bands ^_^

One of NEWS's album (pacific I think) sold 195,000 or so in the first week. K8 still has time~

but NEWS still sold better on the 3rd day...

XD As long as we love them and like album I don't see the need to compare the two. It would be good if they sold a lot (and there is still time to do so) but it just making yourself frustrated if you worry about them in comparison with other bands.

<3

agree with u.

I got frustrated because I frequent a lot of Jpop/Jrock forums (my only genuine interest in Johnny are K8 and SMAP and some individuals) and people there can be a lot harsher than say, KT fans...having good numbers make you feel good and can shut people up you know...

It's not that bad, they can still make it to 200 000 in the first week, but if they don't they don't, but that doesn't mean that they aren't awesome. I'm still waiting for my copy of puzzle to arrive, but I'm sure it's an amazing album and I'm sure kanjani8 is aware of this too, and to tell you the truth 170 000 copies sold in three days is a pretty awesome number compared to average non johnny's.... I'd still love EITO even if they couldn't even manage to sell one single album <3

agree! ^^

the second to agree...^^

Am I really the only one who thinks that whether it's totally unrelevant if they sold 175k or 200k???
I mean what the hell. They will be the number 1 of the week anyway.
We don't need a proof that they are better than the other Je bands. In our heart they are the best anyway.
It's about the quality of the music and not about the sales..which we know doesn't have to do with Kanjani's salary anyway.
The only people who gets feeded with the sales is the company in the end anyway.

So please come down guys.
Don't make you dependent on those stupid sales...
エイト ❤

luv ur comment ^^

but higher sales means more attention to them, more jobs, more power in the agency, and people outside of Johnny's fandom will notice them more, and they should gain more fans among the casual listeners...they could be in more music bangumis instead of 1 or 2 programs every time they really something...when Arashi hit that big break in 2007, casual listeners got curious and buy their stuff, and they become fans and Arashi keeps selling better and better...that's what Kanjani8 should be aiming for, becoming bigger and better...doesn't that what loyal hardcore fans should want for these guys? because I believe they themselves would want this to happen...and the sad thing is, Eito don't have age on their side and that would work against them in 2 or 3 years, if they don't start now...

They have to get more work? Yeah some of them but compare them to News. What do some News guys do? Nothing.
You already said you don't want to compare them to Arashi so please don't say what Eito should do to aim for something. (They are not something like Arashi #2)
They already have one more band tv show than Kat-tun has. And Kanjani can be lucky to be part of Johnny's because if they were not you can be sure that they wouldn't sell as much as they do for now.

I am loyal but I am satisfied with that. It's always just about work and work. What about private life?
What rights have Johnny's when it comes to their private life?
It's all about making fans happy. And I am a happy fan even with the situation now. I mean the 47 Tour was really a long tour through all countries and I am sure Kanjani were happy with that as well.
I have a private life so why shouldn't they have one? I mean I guess everyone wants them to have one.
I mean a loyal fan shouldn't only wish much success to his favourite band but also care for them as individuals.
As long as I see them happy it's okay for me. ❤

And sorry If I sound mean or something. I don#t want to sound mean..it's just I came back from a party some minutes ago ^^""

I think Kanjani8's more popular to local fans than foreigners.
Though, they have pretty much excelled more than what people expected. Their recent sales for Musekinin Hero was awesome too. In terms of sales, they're pretty much selling more than other Johnny's bands like, say, HSJ or even NEWS and sometimes KAT-TUN. Just don't compare them to Arashi. At this rate, with this momentum, Arashi's sales are pretty much incomparable to other bands, JE and non-JE alike.

With how their numbers are going, who knows that Johnny's just might pull a few tricks that would get their numbers above 200K. Though, I'd like to believe that they'd pull it through even without that much promotion. I love Puzzle. Their songs were really really nice. :3

i was also following on the oricon chart.
personally i agree with you that the number dwindles too fast but i don't really get worked up with the sale figures. just need to remember that it's now recession so it's a bit normal if people cut their budget on things that are not of high priority, foreign or local fans alike.
also need to consider the timing for the release. i'm a NEWS fangirl too and i know their single coming out on 29 apr, just like KAT-TUN new album. so if other fans are also fangirling/fanboying multiple johnnys group, it's kinda hard to choose.
i agree with jibun_no_kage about not comparing to Arashi, esp. since this year is their 10th anniversary so i think the jimusho will make use of the occasion to make more money, meaning more promos, more dramas, more singles, more projects >> no offense to Arashi fans.
better still, don't need to compare them with other johnnys. if we support them, it means we support them regardless of how well the sale goes.

then it's a good thing that some of us are Kanjani8-only fans, aren't we?

don't really agree with the last sentence though...as fans, of course we should support them regardless of what, that's what true fans do...but better sales means the jimusho will notice them more (they're already struggling to do so with all the favoritism in the agency), more jobs will come their way, more dramas, movie or drama tie-ins, more appearances in major bangumis (instead of just 1 or 2 music bangumis for this album and they might never go on MS), more CMS...they don't even have CMs anymore since their Nissin contract runs out...I wonder when their sales starts to dwindle more, how many so-called-fans would actually run away...

I bought my albums through yesasia (cause no duty this way..) and I'll change to H.. something (cause faster and no duty) yesasia I hear doesn't count in oricon ;_; does HMV (maybe?lol I forgot) count? damn. but eventually my buying will count too.. ne? ;_;

thanks for the info.

yesasia sale doesnt count in oricon. HMV, yes it counts.

thanks :)

Yah!!!...Of course Johnny will use Arashi to sell even bigger not bec. it's Arashi's 10th yr. Anniv. but bec. Arashi make it big before their 10th yr. Anniv...and many are expecting a Festival...they will use them coz they're the most Famous now....